Karla responded to my reflections on being German here and perhaps you’d like to keep on following the discussion. It has been an intriguing one so far; friends’ comments included the following (2. responds to 1., 3. responds to 2.):
- From my conversations with German friends, it’s pretty obvious this ambiguity is not a problem for ex-Easterners alone. On the contrary, a good few of my friends point out the adverse/ambiguous effects of the exceptionalism in the (Western) education they received about WWII (as you know, there is a generation of Germans who have grown up in a pacifist tradition, and who while reviling Nazism, are growing tired of being told that they carry the responsibility for the crimes of their grandparents). Personally, I’m very wary the risks of exceptionalism in thinking about WWII or the camps, or the Holocaust: on the one hand exceptional guilt/responsibility warns the future by remembering the past, on the other it restricts the applicability of that warning to particular groups of perpetrators or victims (not to mention even more pernicious manipulation of that history -see Finkelstein’s “The Holocaust Industry”). And perhaps thinking about this comparatively helps in more than the debates on WWII genocide(s): however imperfect the historical memory and the lessons learned from it, if there is one European country which has dealt with the culturally and politically fascist dimensions of its past, it is Germany. Have other countries gone close? Italy or France? Or England? Do Italians learn or even vaguely know they invented concentration camps and killed hundreds of thousands in Lybia? How about Vichy? Or Scandinavan eugenics programmes? Or indeed that the UK and the US refused to increase their immigration quotas after 1933, when the persecuted were literally dying to get out of Germany? And what is the result? That, for example, over the last two years both France and Italy have been deporting the Roma, that racist parties and policies become ‘electable’ (witness the ‘hijab debates’). That, for example, when you try to raise these questions, people look at you blankly, as though you’re pointing out some sort of nit-picking historical detail of dubious truth or relevance. And so on. Paraphrasing Justin, what should horrify all of us, but rarely does, is that such horrors were perpetuated by human beings against other human beings. And that in different ways they still are. We should not allow our commitment to remember the past to cloud out knowledge of the present.
- The German struggle of collective guilt has always interested me in light of other places’ histories of slavery, segregation, and aggression against native peoples. I’ve also talked about this before not only with Germans, but Canadians (re. the First Nations), Australians (re. Aboriginals) and South Africans (re. Apartheid). Whereas many (but certainly not all) Americans and others seem to have a sense of national responsibility for recognizing and correcting past injustices, there isn’t any guilt like that felt by so many Germans born or coming of age after the war. Guilt implies actual wrong-doing, and so is different from consciousness of the past and responsibility for future, but not past, actions. So guilt for the war and the holocaust, felt by those with no personal connection to them, seems to be a unique German complex. I wonder how much of this stems from post-war education, the tensions of post-war history, or something deeper in the German mentality (if there is such a thing).
- Your observation about guilt & wrong-doing is very interesting! I think guilt implies the recognition of wrong-doing, but it seems that the reverse is not always true! Perhaps it should be, but perhaps the key thing is where this guilt identifies the ’cause’ of the wrong-doing: is it in particular historical circumstances, or is it built into the nature of the ethnic/religious group in itself? The US and Australian cases seem to fall under the former (“sure, it was bad, and we’ll try to fix it, but it was the culture of the time / a few bad apples / etc.”) while the German case seems to fall under the latter (“There’s something about Germans: sure, they’re cuddly now…but flip a switch and it could turn nasty”).
Understanding the past as a lesson/warning for the future necessarily requires the premise that there is a continuity between them. I would prefer to think of that continuity simply as a shared humanity (if human beings can get it wrong once, we can again), but a lot of the time the ‘lessons learned’ about Nazism in particular are bracketed as though they were relevant to Germans alone. And while the responsibility to learn lessons from the past is all the more acute today when policies which target ethnicities/religions are becoming so much more popular, this already difficult task is not helped by those in the ‘Holocaust Debate’ who argue there was something unique about Nazism (let alone those who manipulate the debate for political ends – hence the reference to Finklestein’s book). Making Nazism unique also makes it easier to accept the racist policies of today in other European societies: if we *did* think of the line between ‘cuddly’ democracy and ‘nasty Nazis’ as rather more blurred than we do, then we would be a lot more concerned about policies like fingerprinting or deporting the Roma, or allowing racial/religious profiling. The truly scary thing about Nazism is precisely that they were patently *not* somehow a different brand of human. I’m not suggesting that we’re a gnat’s whisker away from setting up death camps, but, as a famous journalist once said: Why is it that people recognize the seeds of fascism only when uniformed jackboots stomp up and down the main street?”



